“Dancing with my daughter and singing my son to sleep is just as cosmic as a star exploding and expiring in space.” – Bayo Akomolafe



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An aesthetic of entanglement and the sacred gift of stopping.


In this week’s episode, Amisha takes a deep dive with poet, philosopher, psychologist, and professor Bayo Akomolafe at the end of a three-week enquiry into Sacred Activism at Schumacher College. The result is something of a cosmonaut’s voyage into the nature of truth, reality, and our relationship to it.

Bayo outlines his understanding of sacred activism and what it means to live in a “post-truth” world. He offers observations on how our responses in these urgent times may well perpetuate the crisis we try to escape and what the alternatives might be.

Together Bayo and Amisha explore the opportunity that lies in the depths of confusion, the indigenous wisdom found at the heart of quantum physics, and how caring for our children is as cosmic as an exploding star. They invite us on a whistle-stop philosophical tour of the minefield of bioreductionism, the toxicity of the nuclear family, and the wealth inside decolonisation.

Bayo shares the story of his younger years in Nigeria and a great loss that catalysed his quest for truth and meaning. He speaks also of his current work with The Emergence Network, exploring new kinds of noticing, initiating space for slowing down and finding ways to reanimate the small to bring enchantment back to our world.

At the heart of his invitation lies a simple but radical shift of perspective and a new question to walk with, that might lead us to new forms of activism and new ways to serve the times we are living in.

“If you find yourself right all the time, then look around you you are probably alone. To be flawed, wrong, or wounded, is to recognise that we are in a world of other beings. We live and thrive and emerge in the orbit of other beings, and that is beautiful and tragic all at once.” – Bayo Akomolafe

Bayo is author of These Wilds Beyond our Fences: Letters to My Daughter on Humanity’s Search for Home and co-author of We Will Tell Our Own Story: The Lions of Africa Speak!, and is a curator of The Emergence network. 


To find out more about Bayo, visit www.bayoakomolafe.net and emergencenetwork.org

To connect or work with Amisha Ghadiali, visit www.amisha.co.uk

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