“The arts is a human manifestation of the universe reflecting on and celebrating itself. We are the unspooling of the creative dynamics of galaxies. Creativity is part of our birthright and integral to who we are as beings in this cosmos.” ~ Drew Dellinger


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About this interview:

What is the role of creativity in our times?

In this episode Amisha meets poet, writer and teacher Drew Dellinger.

Drew shares his understanding of the role for poetry in our times, and the ways in which poetry – and creativity more broadly – are integral to our human experience. He speaks about the arts as celebration, and a way of deepening our experience of the universe.

Drew tells us about his own creative process, and the ways in which we can nurture and facilitate our own creativity to come forth in our lives. He shares his perspective on where the transcendent and the personal intersect in the creative process, and how to find the form that gets feeling across to others.

Together Drew and Amisha discuss the connections between the arts and social justice, sharing stories and personal experiences as well as some of their great inspirations. They talk about what it means to be engaged, conscious, in community, and in responsibility at this time. Drew shares his ideas on the power of dream, story, art and action coming together to create change.

“The feeling is not enough. You have to have a form which allows that feeling to resonate with others. This is where the discipleship and commitment to craft comes in. We all have feelings of heartbreak, loss, sorrow, poignancy, joy, outrage, profound gratitude and sadness… But not all of us can put that into a poem that will really move the hearts of others.” ~ Drew Dellinger

Drew Dellinger, Ph.D., is an internationally known speaker, poet, writer, and teacher whose keynotes and poetry performances—which address ecology, justice, cosmology, and connectedness—have inspired minds and hearts around the world. He is also a consultant, filmmaker, and founder of Planetize the Movement.

Dellinger has presented at over 1400 events across the US, UK, Canada, and Australia. He has spoken and performed at numerous conferences—including TEDWomen, Bioneers, the Green Festival, the Dream Reborn, and the Parliament of the World’s Religions—as well as colleges and universities, poetry venues, protests, and places of worship.

As a consultant, Dellinger was a core developer and designer of the Pachamama Alliance’s Awakening the Dreamer Symposium, now used in 80 countries, in 18 languages. Dellinger holds a Ph.D. in Philosophy and Religion from CIIS, and has taught and lectured at numerous colleges and universities including John F. Kennedy University, where he was Associate Professor and Director of the Program in Social Ecology. Dellinger has been called “a national treasure,” by Joanna Macy, “a deep and courageous poet,” by Alice Walker and “one of the most creative, courageous and prophetic voices of his generation,” by Cornel West.

To find out more about Drew visit drewdellinger.org

To connect or work with Amisha, visit amisha.co.uk

Links from this episode:

Planetize The Movement

Thomas Berry

Thomas Merton


Matthew Fox

Jack Kerouac

Anne Lamott

Spinal Tap

‘Shangri-La’ – Rick Rubin Documentary

Carl Jung on the Collective Unconscious

Susan Griffin

Dante and Beatrice

Sweet Honey In The Rock

Student Nonviolent Coordinating Committee

David Solnit // Art and Revolution

Bread and Roses – Radical Poetry

Dancers Without Borders

Naomi Klein


Henry David Thoreau

Zero Hour

Jamie Margolin in The Guardian

James Baldwin

Amisha Jewellery

‘Dronehenge’ at New Grange, Ireland

Callanish Standing Stones – Isle of Lewis, Scotland

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