“It ​cannot ​be ​just ​about ​us. ​It ​has ​to ​be ​about ​our ​responsibility ​to ​the ​time ​when ​we ​are ​no ​longer ​here. ​And ​it ​cannot ​be ​a ​choice ​either. ​It ​has ​to ​be ​something ​visceral.” Vanessa Andreotti


E227 – TIMELESS // ‘How to Become a good Elder and Ancestor’ with Vanessa Andreotti


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About this interview: “It ​cannot ​be ​just ​about ​us. ​It ​has ​to ​be ​about ​our ​responsibility ​to ​the ​time ​when ​we ​are ​no ​longer ​here. ​And ​it ​cannot ​be ​a ​choice ​either. ​It ​has ​to ​be ​something ​visceral.” Vanessa Andreotti 

Drawing on her work as an educator, indigenous and land rights advocate and her mixed family history, Vanessa invites us to reflect on what it means to die well. How to become good elders and ancestors?

This timeless wisdom teaches us about the ways in which we can be in service of the greater good. The times we are living in often make it difficult for elders to play their role and teach the younger generation about the mistakes and successes they have experienced. Vanessa sparks ideas around the multiple layers of time, aging and pain and opens up opportunities to interact differently with our elders and ancestors so we can let their stories be medicine for generations to come.

This is from our archives, part of a beautiful and powerful conversation we had in episode 156 with Vanessa Andreotti on Radical Tenderness, Eldership and Decolonisation // Embracing Our Pain.

We hope that hearing this small piece will allow you to find new insights, embrace them and continue this practice of becoming a good elder and ancestor.

“You ​just ​need ​to ​do ​what ​is ​right. ​Even ​if ​it ​goes ​against ​your ​self ​interest, ​even ​if ​it ​makes ​you ​look ​ridiculous ​and ​pathetic, ​even ​if ​it ​costs ​you ​a ​lot, ​​you ​will ​do ​it.” Vanessa Andreotti


Vanessa Machado de Oliveira Andreotti, a Brazilian educator and Indigenous and Land Rights advocate. She is a professor and Canada Research Chair in Race, Inequalities, and Global Change at the University of British Columbia. Drawing on her mixed family history and the work of her arts/research/ecology collective, Vanessa invites us to develop the stamina to face difficult and painful things together with more maturity, sobriety, discernment and accountability, and to learn to activate senses and sensibilities that have been exiled by modernity and that can help us to sense, relate and imagine otherwise. She is one of the founders of the Gesturing Towards Decolonial Futures Arts/Research Collective and part of the co-ordination team of the “Last Warning” campaign. Vanessa is also the author of Hospicing Modernity: Facing Humanity’s Wrongs and Implications for Social Activism.

To connect or work with Vanessa, visit decolonialfutures.net

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