“I think we have so much to learn from listening and being present to nature because of the way that the natural world co-exists, how it can teach us that we are all in this kind of ecosystem of togetherness.” Minna Salami
E258 – TIMELESS // ‘How Nature Can Teach Us a Different Kind of Power’ with Minna Salami
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About this interview:
In this TIMELESS we revisit a conversation with Minna Salami that touches on the themes of listening, beauty and presence. Sharing insights on listening to rivers and to nature, Minna Salami talks about her journey of inquiry into the questions “what can a river teach me about power?”. This episode is a gentle reminder of the importance of cultivating and practicing presence. It invites us to seek beauty in our surroundings and in relation to each other. Listen if you want to explore:
. the difference between hearing and listening
. the natural world at the center of knowledge
. listening as an art form
. how to cultivate presence
. ‘doing’ beauty
. the language of rivers
. living in integrity with your values
“… and all of these obstacles that rivers meet, yet they continue to flow. They flow above or beneath or on the side of the obstacles, but they continue moving in the direction that is their ultimate self-realization.” Minna Salami
Minna Salami is a Nigerian-Finnish and Swedish author and speaker, and formerly senior fellow and program chair at THE NEW INSTITUTE. She is the author of Can Feminism Be African?: A Most Paradoxical Question (Harper Collins, 2025) and Sensuous Knowledge: A Black Feminist Approach for Everyone(Bloomsbury 2020) which has been translated into multiple languages. She was creative director of the short film Black Feminism and the Polycrisis, which won a 2024 Lovie Award. A leading voice of contemporary feminism, she has drawn over a million readers to her multiple award-winning blog MsAfropolitan.com which she ran from 2010 – 2025. She now writes Kaleido: The Europatriarchy Files, a publication naming what others miss about our times from a feminist and decolonial perspective. Her essays have appeared in The Financial Times, The Guardian, The Ideas Letter, and Project Syndicate, and she regularly delivers lectures on platforms ranging from TEDx to Yale University, the European Commission, and NASA’s Singularity University. She has collaborated with major academic institutions, think tanks, policy and governmental bodies, and public platforms internationally through writing, convening, advisory work, and keynote speaking. Minna is a Full Member of the Club of Rome, a BMW Foundation Responsible Leader and sits on the advisory boards of the African Feminist Initiative and of Cambridge Studies in Public Humanities and Feminist Studies, as well as on the council of the Royal Institute of Philosophy. An alumni of Lund University and SOAS University, Minna has lived in Nigeria, Sweden, Spain, New York and Hamburg. She now lives in London.
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