“The ​women ​are ​the ​backbone ​of ​the ​family. ​The ​women ​are ​the ​backbone ​of ​the ​community.” Pat McCabe


E233 – TIMELESS // ‘How To Dismantle Toxic Power Through True Respect for Women’ with Pat McCabe


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About this interview: “How can we embrace our wisdom in relationship with earth?”

This TIMELESS has actually never been shared on the podcast before. Our guest is Woman Stands Shining also known as Pat McCabe – one of the Diné Nation, and was adopted into the Lakota Spiritual Way of Life. Pat lives in rural New Mexico, but travels internationally to speak, pray, and share her journey with others. Descended from elders taken into residential boarding schools intended to strip her people of their culture, she is continually in the process of remembering and listening for the way Home, back to the true nature of being Human Being.

This little piece explores the sacred role of women in indigenous traditions and their deep connection to Mother Earth. With wisdom from the Lakota, Kogi, and other cultures, Pat describes how women are the backbone of families and communities. She shares with us the power of moon time, the importance of reintroducing Grandmother’s Lodges, and the need to restore balance between the masculine and feminine. This is a call for women to reclaim their spiritual authority—not through dominance, but by aligning with the natural laws and rhythms of life.

On this same day, episode 111 Emergence, Restoration and Co-Creation entitled Human Gifts Of Kinship was recorded. We warmly invite you to go and have a listen.

In this TIMELESS we go beyond the billionaire’s boys club and explore How True Respect for Women Dismantles Toxic Power. We hope it moves you deeply

“My ​moon ​time ​gave ​me ​a ​capacity ​to ​approach ​this ​Mother ​Earth, ​​to ​make ​a ​profound ​offering ​to ​her, ​either ​literally ​or ​energetically, ​​and ​acknowledge ​the ​life ​that  ​is ​inherently ​gifted ​to ​me ​to ​bring ​into ​this ​world.” Pat McCabe


Woman Stands Shining (Pat McCabe) is of the Diné Nation, and was adopted into the Lakota Spiritual Way of Life. She lives in rural New Mexico, but travels internationally to speak, to pray, and to share her journey with others. Descended from elders taken into residential boarding schools intended to strip her people of their culture, she is continually in the process of remembering and listening for the way Home, back to the true nature of being Human Being. Describing this process is her greatest gift to the world. A particularly strong part of this journey has been to remake her understanding of gender, and the spiritual capacity they each – more than two – hold. Her guides have expressed to her: You think you know what Masculine is, but you don’t. You think you know what Feminine is, but you don’t. All you know is how these energetics behave in a power-over-paradigm, but if you were to plug them into a different paradigm, they would behave in a completely different way. Exploring this counsel is one of the greatest adventures she knows.

To connect or work with Pat, visit patmccabe.net

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