“A recognition of this deep interrelatedness. Not just that I, as an individual, am deeply interrelated with everything else around, but my very identity is not this separated self that our Western dominant culture tells us.” Jeremy Lent
E269 – We Are All Entangled // The Hidden Threads of Collective Karma with Jeremy Lent, Nasreen Sheikh and Sally Kempton
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How can we shift our understanding of karma from an individual to a collective embodied inquiry and practice?
This week’s episode features a beautiful conversation between Amisha Tala Oak, Jeremy Lent, Nasreen Sheikh and Sally Kempton, originally recorded in 2022.
Exploring the themes of karma, interrelatedness and engagement, the conversation invites us to move beyond an individual understanding of karma towards a more collective and interconnected perspective. It challenges us to reflect on how we consume, how we participate in society, and how we might transform our awareness into meaningful action.
An inspiring invitation to deepen our sense of responsibility and engagement in the complex times we live in.
Listen to explore:
. Our interrelatedness with everything around us
. The relationship between personal and collective karma
. Epigenetics and collective trauma
. The ethical and political dimensions of karma
. Emotional numbing and consumer culture
. The role of art and creativity
“We are made out of what we consume and what we eat and what we hear. And it’s very important to ask ourselves where my food comes from, where my clothes come from, where my chocolate and coffee comes from.” Nasreen Sheikh
Jeremy Lent, described by Guardian journalist George Monbiot as “one of the greatest thinkers of our age,” is an author and speaker whose work investigates the underlying causes of our civilization’s existential crisis, and explores pathways toward a life-affirming future. He is the author of Ecocivilization: Making a World that Works for All. His award-winning book, The Patterning Instinct: A Cultural History of Humanity’s Search for Meaning, examines the way humans have made meaning from the cosmos from hunter-gatherer times to the present day. His more recent award-winning The Web of Meaning: Integrating Science and Traditional Wisdom to Find Our Place in the Universe offers a solid foundation for an integrative worldview that could lead humanity to a sustainable, flourishing future. Lent is the founder and host of the Deep Transformation Network, an online global community of over 5,000 members exploring pathways toward a life-affirming future on a regenerated Earth. Lent has written extensively about the vision and specifics of an ecological civilization, and is a founding member of the Ecocivilization Coalition, a worldwide alliance of changemakers coming together to act as a transformation catalyst in service of this potential future. He is president of the Coalition’s parent, the Institute for Ecological Civilization, and is a board member on the executive committee of the Global Compassion Coalition.
Nasreen Sheikh is an internationally recognized human rights activist, multimedia artist, social entrepreneur, and one of the most influential voices in the global movement to end modern slavery. Born in a remote village on the border of India and Nepal, she survived child labor, forced marriage, and extreme poverty. Today, she transforms her lived experience into a powerful force for systemic change. She is the founder of the Empowerment Collective, a 501(c)(3) nonprofit dedicated to ending modern slavery in our lifetime; Global Women’s Handicrafts, a social enterprise that ethically sources and handcrafts products made by artisans around the world, guided by survivor-led values; and leader of the End Modern Slavery Now movement, which unites people worldwide each March 8th and hosts the annual Global Prayer Day on Black Friday to honor survivors and promote conscious consumption. A visionary advocate for a transparent global economic system, Nasreen champions supply chain transparency, corporate accountability, and modern slavery legislation. Her groundbreaking TransparaTrade™ initiative offers a blueprint for ethical commerce enabling consumers, businesses, and policymakers to trace supply chains, enforce human rights, and drive lasting reform. Her message has reached millions through high-profile speeches, global media features, and advocacy campaigns. She has addressed the United Nations, the European Union, and major corporations such as Google and Amazon, while engaging with world figures including Gloria Steinem and Pope Francis. Nasreen’s mission is rooted in a singular vision: that every child born on Earth should be guaranteed the 7 Keys of Inalienable Human Rights rights that ensure freedom, dignity, and opportunity for all.
Sally Kempton was our guest on Episode 8 shares her wisdom in Episode 92, Episode 117 (which she hosts) and Episode 162. Though Sally offered many courses for beginning meditation students, she is also regarded as a ‘teacher’s teacher’, whose approach inspired long-time practitioners to free themselves from routine meditation practice, and move deeper. She taught devotional contemplative tantra—an approach to practise that creates a fusion of knowing and loving. Known for her ability to transmit inner experience through transformative practices and contemplation, Sally had been practising and teaching for over forty years. A disciple of the Indian guru Swami Muktananda, she spent twenty years as a teaching swami (monk) in the Saraswati order of Indian monks. In her guru’s ashram, she received a traditional training in yoga philosophy and practice, and became a popular teacher, deeply versed in the teachings and practices of Vedanta and Kashmir Shaivism.In 2002, Sally began teaching independently and offered heart-to-heart transmission in meditation and life practice through her Awakened Heart Tantra workshops, teleclasses, retreats, and trainings in applied spiritual philosophy. Her workshops and teleconference courses (which you can access through her website) integrate the wisdom of traditional yoga tantra with the insights of contemporary evolutionary spirituality and cutting-edge psychology. Sally is the author of “Meditation for the Love of It”, “Awakening Shakti: The Transformative Power of the Goddesses of Yoga” as well as the audio book – “Doorways to the Infinite: The Art and Practice of Tantric Meditation.”
To connect or work with Jeremy, visit jeremylent.com
To connect or work with Nasreen, visit nasreensheikh.com
For insights into Sally’s work, visit sallykempton.com
To connect or work with Amisha, visit www.amisha.co.uk
Links from this episode:
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- E21 – Jeremy Lent on Patterns, Integration and Meaning // Humanity’s Patterns of Meaning
- E127 – Nasreen Sheikh on Modern Day Slavery, Women’s Rights and Cultural Change // Collective Empowerment From The Heart
- E8 – Sally Kempton on Meditation, Authenticity & The Goddess // Awakening The True Blueprint Within
- E92 – Wisdom from our Elders // with Sally Kempton, Jyoti and Mac Macartney
- E117 – Sally Kempton on Embodied Intelligence, Intuition and Deconditioning // A Compass For A Beautiful Future
- E181 – Honouring Shakti // A Tribute to Sally Kempton
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