“I want that new system very badly. And I don’t know exactly what it’s going to look like because it will be grounded in everybody becoming as fully realized as possible. Our moving from a trauma culture to an initiation culture. Our healing, our relationships with ourselves, each other and the more than human world.” Manda Scott
Manda Scott on Thrutopia, Vision and Human Power // Writing A New Story
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About this interview: 
How do we emerge into a new future from here?
In this week’s conversation with award-winning novelist, smallholder, contemporary shamanic trainer and host of the international chart-topping Accidental Gods podcast Manda Scott, we explore the edges of shaping the future of our wildest dreams.
‘The not knowing is what allows the space for the web of life to send the knowing in.’ and it is this not knowing that gives us room to dream, rise and change this system.
‘It’s not predictable. If we can predict it, then it’s not the new system, but we can take ourselves to the emergent edge of inter becoming, from which emergence into that new system is hopefully more likely than the chaos and extinction.’
We explore:
:: Why the emergence into a new system can feel unpredictable but wonderful
:: How to move from a trauma culture to an initiation culture
:: How to dream without constraints
:: What it looks like when 8.5 billion people feel belonging, connection, agency and live a life filled with meaning
:: How we as humans have the power to change and shape a new future
:: Why visions come at unexpected times
:: What happens when continually asking of the web of life, what do you want of me?
:: How to move away from the head mind and settle into the heart mind
:: How contemporary shamanic practices help connect to the wonder and glory of the world
:: How habits done consciously become rituals
:: What the transformative journey of writing a book looks like
:: How the process of death can be a potential window into a new system
:: How to make governance into something that is generative and collaborative again
Best known for the Boudica: Dreaming series, Manda Scott was once a veterinary surgeon; reading for a Masters in Regenerative Economics at Schumacher College taught her that hospicing modernity is our most urgent task—and that it’s only possible if enough of us have road maps showing routes through from exactly where we are towards a future that works for all life. She is co-creator of the Thrutopian Writing Masterclass and her new novel, Any Human Power is a Thrutopian mytho-political thriller.
We hope this episode encourages you to explore deeper what invitations the web of life is making to you.
“And I can feel the edges of that new system. I can feel the wonder of it. At the times when I sit still and really open into the joyful curiosity of that. It feels absolutely magical.” Manda Scott
Best known for the Boudica: Dreaming series, Manda Scott was once a veterinary surgeon and is now an award-winning novelist, smallholder, contemporary shamanic trainer and host of the international chart-topping Accidental Gods podcast. Reading for a Masters in Regenerative Economics at Schumacher College taught her that hospicing modernity is our most urgent task—and that it’s only possible if enough of us have road maps showing routes through from exactly where we are towards a future that works for all life. She is co-creator of the Thrutopian Writing Masterclass and her new novel, Any Human Power is a Thrutopian mytho-political thriller.
To connect or work with Manda , visit accidentalgods.life, thrutopia.life and mandascott.co.uk
To connect or work with Amisha, visit amisha.co.uk
artwork video: picture by Hannah Tornhill Resources and links from this episode:
- Manda’s book – Any Human Power
- Maddy Harland – permaculture Magazine
- Rupert Read – Climate Majority Project
- Book the Climate Majority Project
- Ilya Prigogine
- Jonathan Haidt
- Books by Bill Plotkin
- Francis Weller
- Daniel Smachtenberger
- Ursula Le Guin
- Nina Simons E81 – Nina Simons on Leadership, Diversity and Restoring the Feminine // Nature, Culture and the Sacred: Listening for Leadership – Bioneers
- Don Oscar Miro Quesada
- Sophy Banks Healthy Human Culture
- Book Civilized to Death by Christopher Ryan
- Book the Dawn of Everything by David Graeber and David Wengrow
- Audrey Tang
- Glen Weyl
- E156 – Vanessa Andreotti on Radical Tenderness, Eldership and Decolonisation // Embracing Our Pain
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